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rights abuses, that those are the most deserving people in the nation to receive a presidential pardon? this is really a president who has zero allegiance to the rule of law. >> yeah. and as you know, pardons created to right the wrongs in the judicial system. the not create new ones as he's done here. what about your investigation, andrew, as we follow corruption here of the pardons dangled? how clear are you a pardon was dangled to paul manafort and to roger stone and if they waited it out to the end, the end being yesterday, they would be pardoned? >> that's laid out in our report that there were pardons that were dangled. it was a huge problem in getting people to cooperate. you can see that roger stone never cooperated. the judge found and in sentencing him he committed his crimes for the president. with paul manafort the only explanation for his failed cooperation effort is that he was playing for a pardon. and what we saw yesterday was essentially the president, you know, carrying out the final act of an obstruction of justice. so to your point about, can the president currently
rights abuses, that those are the most deserving people in the nation to receive a presidential pardon? this is really a president who has zero allegiance to the rule of law. >> yeah. and as you know, pardons created to right the wrongs in the judicial system. the not create new ones as he's done here. what about your investigation, andrew, as we follow corruption here of the pardons dangled? how clear are you a pardon was dangled to paul manafort and to roger stone and if they waited it...
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david remnick shows us how "the new yorker" magazine is honoring the civil rights era. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." today, we're giving my living room a much-needed makeover. i thought we couldn't afford it, but then i went to walmart and i found the new home trends collection. i started off with rugs and pillows... and i got those for a steal. [ son ] mooom. steal as in a good price, honey. and then, it was on to my bare walls... i even got all the little extras, guilt free. tables, lamps, pillows, candles... and just like that, voila! a room i want to show off. get the new home trends collection at walmart. save money. live better. walmart. because with national, i roll past the counter... and choose any car in the aisle. choosing your own car? now that's a good call. go national. go like a pro. now that's a good call. i was just in town for a few days, and i was wondering if i could say hi to the doctor. is he in? he's in copenhagen. oh, well, that's nice. but you can still see him! you just said he was in... copenhagen. come on! that's pretty far. do
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that's true on civil rights as well. he's been unfairly criticized for being weak on civil rights. he was not as strong as he could havebeen, but he did ts poant. w >> let's talk, presidential historian, jon meacham, who has a book coming out after the election that's forthcoming. "thomas jefferson, t.j." ike, a good president? a ar great president? or a great president? think that he -- one of the things we haven't talked about on the domestic side is he ratified what franklin roosevelt and harry truman had done in that he could have created --n 1952, 3,it cle,think, and check me on this, evan, was such that if he had been really intent on rolling back the new deal and the fair deal, it would ve been a huge fight and would have divided the country even more. llnt essentially did for ronald reagan. >> reagan. >> which is shift the conversation slightly, but accept the basic -- he was burkian -- accept the basic reality of what he found. >> like what they fndrom ar at. evan, let me ask you the same question. great? near great? >> great. he had wisdom. he had common sense. he made go
that's true on civil rights as well. he's been unfairly criticized for being weak on civil rights. he was not as strong as he could havebeen, but he did ts poant. w >> let's talk, presidential historian, jon meacham, who has a book coming out after the election that's forthcoming. "thomas jefferson, t.j." ike, a good president? a ar great president? or a great president? think that he -- one of the things we haven't talked about on the domestic side is he ratified what franklin...
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trayvon martin had the federal civil right to go home. state law said he could be interfered with and the one responsible could walk away. we got to deal with that on saturday. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. reverend al will be leading the 50th anniversary of the march on washington tomorrow. he'll also host a special two-hour "politics nation" tonight at 6:00 p.m. martin iii will be on tonight. >> "morning joe" will be right back. [ male announcer ] if she keeps serving up sneezes... [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®. powerful allergy relief for adults and kids six years and older. zyrtec®. love the air. >>> still to come on "morning joe" david axelrod will be joining us on the set, but first we head out to the west coast where massive wildfires continue to burn out of control. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. watching "" brewed by starbucks. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed. a quarter million tweeters are tweeting. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that'
trayvon martin had the federal civil right to go home. state law said he could be interfered with and the one responsible could walk away. we got to deal with that on saturday. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. reverend al will be leading the 50th anniversary of the march on washington tomorrow. he'll also host a special two-hour "politics nation" tonight at 6:00 p.m. martin iii will be on tonight. >> "morning joe" will be right back. [ male announcer ] if she...
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for redress, why wouldn't civil rights leaders respond? that's what we're about. but rather than explain that, i used to just call you a name, keep going. >> i don't mean to belabor this, but it is part of the book and it's stuff a lot of people are going to ask you about. so you don't believe that the brawley case was a hoax? >> i believe that the basis of our involvement of saying that this prosecutor should have moved forward and brought this into court was absolutely the right position to take. and that was the position we took. >> john ridley. >> for me, reverend, and i lived in new york a long time ago, you've always been a person of stature. a lot of people, this book is addressed to other rejected stones. i look at you and say here's a man who started somewhere and went somewhere. if you're someone sitting at home, doesn't have a platform, how do they take your message and actually activate it? how do they go from being someone who's completely rejected, has no platform, nowhere to go, to actually changing their life? >> it has not
for redress, why wouldn't civil rights leaders respond? that's what we're about. but rather than explain that, i used to just call you a name, keep going. >> i don't mean to belabor this, but it is part of the book and it's stuff a lot of people are going to ask you about. so you don't believe that the brawley case was a hoax? >> i believe that the basis of our involvement of saying that this prosecutor should have moved forward and brought this into court was absolutely the right...
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civil rights organization didn't check this out. the department of agriculture didn't check this out. the white house didn't check this out. we didn't check this out. we meaning the media. i think jon is absolutely right that, you know, this tsh place is speed over quality is -- it's going to ruin us. and i think when it comes to issues, incendiary issues of race and particularly at this time with this presidency, when there are accusations hurled out there, i think we all need to take a step back, take a breath, and then start asking the questions, where did this come from? who was saying this? why are they doing? what is the context? if it's a video clip, if it's two minutes, how long are the entire thing and what are they saying on it? when i watched shirley sherrod's entire speech, heartbreaking because her story is so fantastic. it's a quintessential american story of someone who -- it was, for lack of a better word, love and peace triumphing over hate. a person who had her father murdered by white men who weren't brought to ju
civil rights organization didn't check this out. the department of agriculture didn't check this out. the white house didn't check this out. we didn't check this out. we meaning the media. i think jon is absolutely right that, you know, this tsh place is speed over quality is -- it's going to ruin us. and i think when it comes to issues, incendiary issues of race and particularly at this time with this presidency, when there are accusations hurled out there, i think we all need to take a step...
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through the building of the berlin wall, the kennedy assassination, the civil rights movement, vietnam, watergate. he walked us right through that. i think it's been said and it can't be emphasized too much walter, when you say why walter cronkite, why all this fuss about him? number one, he helped more than any other person, helped invent modern television. set the standard. he really believed in quality journalism of integrity and he lived it. he breathed it. one reason he connected with the american audience so well, one reason he became the most trusted man in america he really had a passion for covering news and presenting the news and it showed. i think the public connected with that. i know people born after maybe 1980, 1981 say what's the big deal about this guy? but he connected in a trustworthy way that no one before or since with the possible exception of the late great ed merrill even came close to accomplish. >> doris, i'd love to hear from you. as dan touched on, play-by-play television journalism was born with walter cronkite and of course his reporting on the assassinat
through the building of the berlin wall, the kennedy assassination, the civil rights movement, vietnam, watergate. he walked us right through that. i think it's been said and it can't be emphasized too much walter, when you say why walter cronkite, why all this fuss about him? number one, he helped more than any other person, helped invent modern television. set the standard. he really believed in quality journalism of integrity and he lived it. he breathed it. one reason he connected with the...
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against civil rights bill, 1964. civil rights bill 1966. against civil rights bill 1968. against bill targeting employment discrimination 1972. against civil rights bill 1976. against extension of voting rights bill, 1982. against creation of mlk day 1983. against civil rights bill 1984. i can go on. >> fantastic. yes, you can. >> so this really does -- for those who say that the filibuster does not have an anti-civil rights overtone to it, it's just not true. >> oh, joe, it's not just not true, and kevin cruz, i have read his thread. it was fantastic. michael harriet also did. it's clear the filibuster is primary used to stop black people from being able to enjoy all that this country supposedly has to offer. that's clear, that's obvious. whether it's civil rights or pensions. the mlk holiday seems archaic now, but someone was trying to filibuster given martin luther king a holiday. the issue is not there's a racial component to the filibuster. there's a racial component to anything everything in this country. what galls me, actually, joe, what i find surprising, whether
against civil rights bill, 1964. civil rights bill 1966. against civil rights bill 1968. against bill targeting employment discrimination 1972. against civil rights bill 1976. against extension of voting rights bill, 1982. against creation of mlk day 1983. against civil rights bill 1984. i can go on. >> fantastic. yes, you can. >> so this really does -- for those who say that the filibuster does not have an anti-civil rights overtone to it, it's just not true. >> oh, joe, it's...
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tried to square that with the civil union proposal all legal rights for gay couples and increasingly frustrated with having to take that position and ultimately said to us hey, i'm not saying that. i think it's time to take the next -- step. >> he was pushed into it by joe biden, though. >> no. that is -- >> don't be cynical. >> come on david. >> that's that cynicism i'm talking about, joe, i was there. >> you're being cynical here. he wanted to wait until after his last election. >> joe listen to joe scarborough if you want the whole story it's right here in this book. >> jim? >> obviously, in these interview, talking about your role in the book people talking about the president. in your time with him what is the biggest misperception of him, you're seeing behind the scenes. the way the public sees him is so disconnected from reality? >> this notion of aloofness and coldness. i don't see that at all. we've been friends for over 20 years. and so many of our conversations are about family. are about you know different struggles, of and concerns that are more personal. whenever i've h
tried to square that with the civil union proposal all legal rights for gay couples and increasingly frustrated with having to take that position and ultimately said to us hey, i'm not saying that. i think it's time to take the next -- step. >> he was pushed into it by joe biden, though. >> no. that is -- >> don't be cynical. >> come on david. >> that's that cynicism i'm talking about, joe, i was there. >> you're being cynical here. he wanted to wait until...
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to testify for the civil rights act. he was one of the ones pushing for it. his language about first class citizenship was picked up by people like fannie lou hamer. he was integral to it. when he was killed, to your point, dr. king had given his initial version of the speech he gave on august 28 at the march on washington, he gave it in detroit, as you know, rev. >> right. >> to 22,000 people. one of the lines that later gets cut out of the speech in d.c. was, "i have a dream that one day, people like medgar evers and emmett till will be able to live their lives in freedom." that's cut out on the march on washington speech, but that's in his original dream. the galvanizing moment for that speech, they did it on the assassination date of emmett till, the date he was lynched. myrlie evers was the only woman invited to speak with the big six. she couldn't do it because she had an naacp commitment, but she would have been on the ddais. the last piece to that is when kennedy comes through on the bill he promised, he invited myrlie evers and charles evers, medgar'
to testify for the civil rights act. he was one of the ones pushing for it. his language about first class citizenship was picked up by people like fannie lou hamer. he was integral to it. when he was killed, to your point, dr. king had given his initial version of the speech he gave on august 28 at the march on washington, he gave it in detroit, as you know, rev. >> right. >> to 22,000 people. one of the lines that later gets cut out of the speech in d.c. was, "i have a dream...
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, these statements about banning muslims that play right into the isis narrative of a clash of civilizations are amazingly counterproductive. and you can imagine how difficult it is to get the full cooperation of many of our gulf allies who need to fight the ideological fight as well as the physical fight when we say we want to ban even them coming to the country to coordinate on strategy. so there are some positive steps that we can take, are taking, and i think on the positive side, we're seeing the space that isis is operating in, in iraq and syria, shrink. we also have to deal with the political problems of those two countries to make sure that once we defeat isis there, we don't have a subsequent iteration emerge from its ashes. >> congressman kinzinger, you're the deputy whip on the republican side. i know guns are an issue that's just very hard to talk about. you almost don't want to raise them right after a situation like this. but is there some way we can discuss the proliferation of these assault-type, military-type long guns with high ammunition magazines that some way to cut back
, these statements about banning muslims that play right into the isis narrative of a clash of civilizations are amazingly counterproductive. and you can imagine how difficult it is to get the full cooperation of many of our gulf allies who need to fight the ideological fight as well as the physical fight when we say we want to ban even them coming to the country to coordinate on strategy. so there are some positive steps that we can take, are taking, and i think on the positive side, we're...
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lbj did not lead the civil rights movement, ok? >> right. >> you have to have strong grassroots movements and strong presidential leadership for movements. so the book is trying to get past that disappointment with the base, learn the lessons and move forward. >> so if your book, you have a couple of critiques of the president, but you also critique the american people who voted him into office for giving up too soon. >> well, we went from hopy to mopey, you know. it was like we were hopy, hopy, and then mopey, mopey. if you stay there, it's dopey dopey. >> there was a lot to mope about. >> sure. listen, certainly people have a lot of critiques of the president. and i'm tough on him in the book. >> i'm just talking about the times we live in. really, really hurting. >> exactly. >> so it was a hopeful time, and then it became a very difficult time for many americans. >> that's right. i think the challenge that we face was that we didn't -- as far as the grassroots, i'm from the democratic wing of the democratic party. i think for th
lbj did not lead the civil rights movement, ok? >> right. >> you have to have strong grassroots movements and strong presidential leadership for movements. so the book is trying to get past that disappointment with the base, learn the lessons and move forward. >> so if your book, you have a couple of critiques of the president, but you also critique the american people who voted him into office for giving up too soon. >> well, we went from hopy to mopey, you know. it was...
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there are many pillars in civil society that have to be created in these places that have never had them. and i think that's, as you said, it's the frustration of people inside that want to see change happen more quickly and there's frustration on the outside, where people say, well, how come this isn't happening more quickly. what's the biggest thing the united states can do to nudge that path towards democracy? >> that's a really good question. i think what we can learn from the past is the united states should not pursue a policy of stability over democracy. i think when there's a clear choice between the principle of a democratic step forward or maybe a stable step forward, i think that most people in that region will tell you, it is okay to pursue the democratic step, even if it is in the short run appearing to be a little bit unstable. i think in the past, what we've seen, 30 years of pursuing a policy supporting a person who can serve u.s. interests but bring stability breeds very problematic issues in the long run. and as we're seeing now, completely, a lack of democratic culture
there are many pillars in civil society that have to be created in these places that have never had them. and i think that's, as you said, it's the frustration of people inside that want to see change happen more quickly and there's frustration on the outside, where people say, well, how come this isn't happening more quickly. what's the biggest thing the united states can do to nudge that path towards democracy? >> that's a really good question. i think what we can learn from the past is...
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the civil rights movement. >> robert smalls, he served as a slave on a ship during the civil war. then he served as a member of that ship and eventually in battle when his captain wanted to surrender, he got that boat out of harm's way. he then went on to introduce the first bills for public schools in south carolina and eventually served here in the congress. >> barbara jordan, the great civil rights leader and congresswoman from texas. and when congress was considering the impeachment of richard nixon, she gave one of the great political speeches. she said i am not going to sit here and be an idledemunition o constitution. >> you have masses of people and that becomes a big part of the civil rights movement. >> charlotte fortin, remarkable figure in the atlantic magazine's history, she is the first plaque woman to write for the atlantic magazine. >> she is an amazing young scientist who is basically going to be part of a group of scientists that will go down in history for helping to end the pandemic. >> ralph bunch. not a well-known person but he ought to be. he was the first a
the civil rights movement. >> robert smalls, he served as a slave on a ship during the civil war. then he served as a member of that ship and eventually in battle when his captain wanted to surrender, he got that boat out of harm's way. he then went on to introduce the first bills for public schools in south carolina and eventually served here in the congress. >> barbara jordan, the great civil rights leader and congresswoman from texas. and when congress was considering the...
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trying to understand it as a civil rights movement, a bigger civil rights movement than i think it felt ever at the time. and it's a kind of tapestry of actual sort of news reel and interjections almost sort of commentary. >> what was in it for the president to cooperate at this point with his memoirs at least a year away? >> i think he's trying out. you know, i think there are things even at this moment that he, i think he is very invested in his legacy, in spite of the fact his people say he doesn't care about that right now. i think he is quite invested in it. he's trying to very, very gently reshape narratives, settle scores a little bit. you know, he's very -- in the first of these, he's sort of talking about a day, a week into his presidency, when it becomes clear, john boehner announces he is going to recommend that they reject the stimulus bill before the stimulus bill has actually been put through. and it's sort of at that moment that he realizes his entire presidency will be one of obstruction, and he takes us in between, inside the rooms and the real conversations he's been h
trying to understand it as a civil rights movement, a bigger civil rights movement than i think it felt ever at the time. and it's a kind of tapestry of actual sort of news reel and interjections almost sort of commentary. >> what was in it for the president to cooperate at this point with his memoirs at least a year away? >> i think he's trying out. you know, i think there are things even at this moment that he, i think he is very invested in his legacy, in spite of the fact his...
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for the largest step towards greater associate justice since civil rights and medicare and took a single word stupidly to send everyone scurrying back to that infinite score settling. sergeant crowley should not have arrested gates and the police acknowledged by dropping charges but gates knows that this police officer with a good record is not the enemy. let's end the score settling right now. marc, is that what will happen tonight? >> you know, i think tonight is a dialogue that the president's going to convene and throughout this entire discussion, my hope is that people will understand better what happens when citizens interact with the police. i often wonder how we would look at this issue if both the police officer and the professor were african-american or both the police officer and the professor a white or if the roles were reversed. we really don't know what we may think, but maybe what comes out of this is -- is that there's going to be some sort of face-to-face dialogue, and what i have learned over the years is that when police and communities dialogue in advance of incident
for the largest step towards greater associate justice since civil rights and medicare and took a single word stupidly to send everyone scurrying back to that infinite score settling. sergeant crowley should not have arrested gates and the police acknowledged by dropping charges but gates knows that this police officer with a good record is not the enemy. let's end the score settling right now. marc, is that what will happen tonight? >> you know, i think tonight is a dialogue that the...
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this is his meeting he had with civil rights leaders. remains on the table. cpi was among those things that he had put on the table. and he said that some of us were going to be opposed to it. he does not back down when he's meeting with those of us that are considered his base. he was very clear. he said, i'm for the going to paint a rosy picture for you. but at the same time, when he gets beat up by some of us that say how can you do that, he's beat up on the other side as saying he's not being reasonable. some of us feel he's being too reasonable. nothing is enough. >> al, sometimes if you're an executive, you know you're doing your job when you're getting beat up by both sides. >> but the problem is that the other side at least should come to the table and say, let's talk about this. >> i agree. >> all right. so -- >> i want to find this table that everything's on. >> yeah. i'd like to see. because i get the feeling it's two different tables. >> come next friday your neck will be on that table. >> david gregory, thank you. who do you have coming up on "me
this is his meeting he had with civil rights leaders. remains on the table. cpi was among those things that he had put on the table. and he said that some of us were going to be opposed to it. he does not back down when he's meeting with those of us that are considered his base. he was very clear. he said, i'm for the going to paint a rosy picture for you. but at the same time, when he gets beat up by some of us that say how can you do that, he's beat up on the other side as saying he's not...
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it requires when civil rights leader is out of line according to david axelrod and democratic senato senators, you let that pass. you let david axelrod say that. when cia directors -- you don't pick fights. >> retweet david. >> it seems to me his instinct is always to fight. it helped him win the republican primary. but i've said it again, his concerns now are not ben carson and ted cruz. they are angela merkel and the leaders in europe. >> a complicated situation. >> looking to him for guidance. >> they believe there's always going to be confrontation. but look at the recount for bush and gore. even after that, the protest on the street in the transition bush in the 60s was able to get democrats to work for him. what worked for him, twitter a habit was extraordinarily effective running against flawed democratic candidate and running narrowly. everyone thought he was going to instantaneously change, everyone that knows him knows that's not doing to happen. the question is with time and poll numbers this low, can he make an adjustment. this is a year of habits. every time someone says
it requires when civil rights leader is out of line according to david axelrod and democratic senato senators, you let that pass. you let david axelrod say that. when cia directors -- you don't pick fights. >> retweet david. >> it seems to me his instinct is always to fight. it helped him win the republican primary. but i've said it again, his concerns now are not ben carson and ted cruz. they are angela merkel and the leaders in europe. >> a complicated situation. >>...
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which had an enormous impact on the civil rights struggle. is this that kind of moment or will it -- or will we look back and say that it didn't initiate that fundamental change that we need. >>> coming up, vladimir putin responds to mass protests by arresting over 1,000 demonstrators. what it means for his grip on power, next on "morning joe." r power, next on "morning joe. bipolar depression. it's a dark, lonely place. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. emptiness. a hopeless struggle. the lows of bipolar depression can disrupt your life and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms, and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. now i'm feeling connected. empowered. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. elderly dementia patients on latuda have an
which had an enormous impact on the civil rights struggle. is this that kind of moment or will it -- or will we look back and say that it didn't initiate that fundamental change that we need. >>> coming up, vladimir putin responds to mass protests by arresting over 1,000 demonstrators. what it means for his grip on power, next on "morning joe." r power, next on "morning joe. bipolar depression. it's a dark, lonely place. this is art inspired by real stories of people...
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is that a civil rights violation? >> the last couple of days there were some terrible pictures of police standing by and watching people loot stores and burn buildings. i think forest johnson -- when cameron came back, decided it was time to stop messing around and it sounds like it's relatively kwai net london today. >> new york -- >> you're not going to see that. >> and you learn it very quickly once you move here. we moved from washington, d.c., where cops when we were there weren't that well respected, to new york and, you know -- so somebody talked back to a new york city one time and that was the last time i ever saw it. the last time i saw that guy either. but people figure out what they can get away with, and obviously it's just been far too permissive in london for too long. >> well, there could be other things causing this and there are other things that we should be worried about. let me read from the "new york times," if i may. >> oh, gosh. going to blame these thugs on 0 socioeconomic conditions, the root
is that a civil rights violation? >> the last couple of days there were some terrible pictures of police standing by and watching people loot stores and burn buildings. i think forest johnson -- when cameron came back, decided it was time to stop messing around and it sounds like it's relatively kwai net london today. >> new york -- >> you're not going to see that. >> and you learn it very quickly once you move here. we moved from washington, d.c., where cops when we...
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rights, issues involving women's rights and issues involving human rights. so i would watch that as close as tillerson. i think joe is probably right, maybe the trump team needs to take a closer look at tillerson but i think they have great confidence. you don't run exxonmobil, a global like that without handling tough and delicate situations which he clearly did for a long time. >> joe? >> yeah. i think a lot of people with rex tillerson, about five minutes in, they are going to see that rex tillerson controls the camera, controls the meeting room, every bit as much. the committee meeting room, every bit as much as somebody like, let's say, the supreme court justice john roberts did when he just completely wowed people that questioning him and the press. i think mccain and graham probably will oppose but probably have to work their way back off of a cliff if they are. i think tillerson is going to be extraordinarily impressive in that room. jake sherman, to you on the jeff sessions question. i would say that jeff sessions would be facing probably the most p
rights, issues involving women's rights and issues involving human rights. so i would watch that as close as tillerson. i think joe is probably right, maybe the trump team needs to take a closer look at tillerson but i think they have great confidence. you don't run exxonmobil, a global like that without handling tough and delicate situations which he clearly did for a long time. >> joe? >> yeah. i think a lot of people with rex tillerson, about five minutes in, they are going to...
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but some civil rights leaders saw that as a distraction. and after years after confronting segregation in the south, he turned north, targeting poverty and economic injustice. >> it's much easier to integrate a lunch counter than is to guarantee an annual income. >> reporter: revered my millions, king was also hated and feared by many white racists. >> we want king. we want king. >> reporter: his life was in constant danger. but he never backed down. >> i can't lose hope because when you lose hope you die. >> reporter: in 1968, king was planning a massive new march on washington. >> we are coming to demand a bill of economic and social rights. >> reporter: but he was drawn into a conflict in memphis where sanitation workers, most of them black, were on strike. the city was refusing to settle. and it got ugly. police used mace. what started as a labor issue became a civil rights cause. king was asked to help. he came to memphis, joining a poorly organized march that turned tragically violent. some demonstrators looted and broke windows. a bl
but some civil rights leaders saw that as a distraction. and after years after confronting segregation in the south, he turned north, targeting poverty and economic injustice. >> it's much easier to integrate a lunch counter than is to guarantee an annual income. >> reporter: revered my millions, king was also hated and feared by many white racists. >> we want king. we want king. >> reporter: his life was in constant danger. but he never backed down. >> i can't...
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. >> it's the question between civil rights and research. >> how do you know who are the ones that will do something terrible. >> we just passed the tragic two year anniversary of newtown. we've been focusing and a lot of people in the media have focused how none of the gun laws were changed. but i think as big or i would say even a bigger tragedy and a bigger failure in washington, d.c., gun laws aside, the failure to address mental health in a meaningful national way. because the further you get away from newtown the more you find out you could have passed every gun law in the world and that guy, that guy was going to figure out how to bring harm to people. >> australia has some of the strictest gun laws in the world. incredibly difficult to get one. people will do crazy things. >> let's be straight about it. australia, i looked it up, has 40 murders by firearm. in america it's 11,000. talking about apples and oranges. >> with police killings as well. >> the point, though, is that whether you're talking about australia, whether you're talking about newtown, whether you're talking abou
. >> it's the question between civil rights and research. >> how do you know who are the ones that will do something terrible. >> we just passed the tragic two year anniversary of newtown. we've been focusing and a lot of people in the media have focused how none of the gun laws were changed. but i think as big or i would say even a bigger tragedy and a bigger failure in washington, d.c., gun laws aside, the failure to address mental health in a meaningful national way....
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we were talking act the civil rights act that drew up certain districts in states to ensure that there would be minority representatives. that actually, as we were saying, hurts the democratic party more than the republican party. >> it took what were fairly reliable democratic voters and gobbled them in one district, whereas if you spread them out you might have reduced the likelihood in some cases that you'd have a black or hispanic representative, particularly a black remitive in the south. the question becomes what kind of policies do you want. it's more likely particularly for african-american voters, you'd have a larger democratic delegation that might work. but cook's point is interesting. we have a system now where politicians are choosing the voters as opposed to voters choosing the politicians. stunning. >> the numbers don't add up. 15% approval rating for congress and 90% of the members get re-elected. that's less of a turnover rate than the old soviet politburo. >> the 10% might have been retirees or open seats. >> yeah, exactly. >> it is ridiculous in every state if you lo
we were talking act the civil rights act that drew up certain districts in states to ensure that there would be minority representatives. that actually, as we were saying, hurts the democratic party more than the republican party. >> it took what were fairly reliable democratic voters and gobbled them in one district, whereas if you spread them out you might have reduced the likelihood in some cases that you'd have a black or hispanic representative, particularly a black remitive in the...
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act and the civil rights act. dr. king never made it to 40 years old, and he was considered the old. he was killed at 39. so was malcolm x. those of us that came behind that young guard felt -- i was a teenager, 13 when i became youth director of new york operation bread basket. i think what we have to do for young people today is say, yes, it does look bleak. affirmative action killed. women's right to choose, all of this. and it's bleak because we didn't do what we should have done in terms of voting. how did the supreme court get stacked? by donald trump getting elected and not enough of us standing and making sure he was blocked in '16. the way to do it is to show the method is that we don't give up, we give more. that's what they did in the '60s. that's what was done in the '80s when we were able to reenergize the movement. that's what's happened with the george floyd movement. but you can't have a two-year run. there is a marathon run, and i think that a lot of young people that got that hope a couple years
act and the civil rights act. dr. king never made it to 40 years old, and he was considered the old. he was killed at 39. so was malcolm x. those of us that came behind that young guard felt -- i was a teenager, 13 when i became youth director of new york operation bread basket. i think what we have to do for young people today is say, yes, it does look bleak. affirmative action killed. women's right to choose, all of this. and it's bleak because we didn't do what we should have done in terms...
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jeff sessions was a disaster when it came to civil rights enforcement. he reversed the justice department's decision in two major civil rights cases where in effect the justice department flipped sides from being against suppression to tacitly supporting suppression and what we need is for barr disassociate the justice department from those failed policies. so nothing in the hearing, nothing in his testimony gave me confidence or gave us confidence that he, in fact, would do that. secondly, his record is we just passed the first step act, an important bipartisan criminal justice reform bill that's going to give relief to lots of people but also which moves the nation towards a saner approach to criminal justice policies. he was a hardline lock 'em up, throw away the key person back in the 1990s. we want assurances that he's going to enforce the first step act and he can give us those assurances by cancelling general sessio sessions' guidance which told u.s. attorneys throw the book at every defendant, charge them with the maximum crime, seek the maximum
jeff sessions was a disaster when it came to civil rights enforcement. he reversed the justice department's decision in two major civil rights cases where in effect the justice department flipped sides from being against suppression to tacitly supporting suppression and what we need is for barr disassociate the justice department from those failed policies. so nothing in the hearing, nothing in his testimony gave me confidence or gave us confidence that he, in fact, would do that. secondly, his...
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rights movement and the women's movement, but it led to the me generation, the me decade and we are a selfish country. we just culturally are. a lot of individuals do brave and selfless things all the time, i mean, mothers and their children, but as a country and a culture, we think there's a free lunch. our savings rate sank -- we had a savings rate of 10% in 1980. it got down to near zero. we've been living large like there's no tomorrow. >> i don't disagree with that, but as you say, washington is just fine, it's us that's broken. i would agree we have let ourselves go and we are out of control on a number of levels. however, doesn't it take leadership to right the ship? >> absolutely. i mean, i think the problem -- the biggest problem is with the leaders, not with the people. but the leaders are a reflection of the people. somebody some day has got to step up to this. you can't -- i mean, my friends think i'm really naive about this, but political leaders have got to admit that we have a huge debt problem and the only way out of it is, one, to raise taxes, and two, to cut entitl
rights movement and the women's movement, but it led to the me generation, the me decade and we are a selfish country. we just culturally are. a lot of individuals do brave and selfless things all the time, i mean, mothers and their children, but as a country and a culture, we think there's a free lunch. our savings rate sank -- we had a savings rate of 10% in 1980. it got down to near zero. we've been living large like there's no tomorrow. >> i don't disagree with that, but as you say,...
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and they overrode a decision by the civil rights division. >> garner was selling the loose cigarettes when pantaleo placed him in the chokehold and garner said i can't breathe 11 times in that video. so the police commissioner made that announcement, james o'neill, that the officer has been fired and the police union is disputing that and it will put a claim in to have pantaleo reinstated so he can get his benefits and remain on the job. this has been a simmering issue in this city and this country that helped in part to inspire the black lives matter movement. >> it really has. and gene, you know, we have the video evidence. >> yeah. >> you know, there were a few members -- a few members of the u.s. senate that tweeted some things about ferguson that were not borne out by video evidence or by eric holder. here we saw on camera eric garner being murdered and i guess the question is what took so long? >> what took so long? i mean, this was -- this was ruled a homicide eventually. this is a process that ground on. there was a question of, you know, whether -- whether criminal charges wo
and they overrode a decision by the civil rights division. >> garner was selling the loose cigarettes when pantaleo placed him in the chokehold and garner said i can't breathe 11 times in that video. so the police commissioner made that announcement, james o'neill, that the officer has been fired and the police union is disputing that and it will put a claim in to have pantaleo reinstated so he can get his benefits and remain on the job. this has been a simmering issue in this city and...
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of course, it was civil rights in '64 and voting rights in '65 to lock it in. if you couldn't vote in the south, you weren't calling the shots. one thing we've learned on abortion rights, women and men together can decide on abortion rights, not the supreme court. so pennsylvania may have a more liberal view of the things, but they're going to vote on the issue. i think people who grew up in the counties of philadelphia are going to decide the election. people who didn't go to college have a pretty good rage on their hands. that's what you really want in an election. rural rage is so angry at the establishment, the coastal elite, people on "saturday night live," those snarling rich kids, those trust funders. they don't worry about us. and the regular guys in the country go, there they are snarling and making fun of us again, and every time they make fun of us they make fun of trump. it's a weird thing. we did it with afghanistan and iraq. we enraged the enemy to the point where they're more fiery than ever and they hate us more than every. armies don't make pea
of course, it was civil rights in '64 and voting rights in '65 to lock it in. if you couldn't vote in the south, you weren't calling the shots. one thing we've learned on abortion rights, women and men together can decide on abortion rights, not the supreme court. so pennsylvania may have a more liberal view of the things, but they're going to vote on the issue. i think people who grew up in the counties of philadelphia are going to decide the election. people who didn't go to college have a...
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anyone will tell you that studied the history of the civil rights movement in the south, people were empowered to do things they might not have been otherwise empowered to do. we've got to be very, very careful about that. >> the book is "bending toward justice, the birmingham church bombing that changed the course of civil rights." it is out today. if you've never been to birmingham and stood there next to the 16th street baptist church, it's something you ought to do at least once in your life. senator, we appreciate your time. >> great to be here this morning. >> still ahead, questions about whether roger stone violated his gag order after one of his instagram posts got the attention of robert mueller. that's coming up on "morning joe." oming up on "morning joe. cancer, epilepsy, mental health, hiv. patients with serious diseases are being targeted for cuts to their medicare drug coverage. new government restrictions would allow insurance companies to come between doctor and patient. and deny access to individualized therapies millions depend on. call the white house today. help s
anyone will tell you that studied the history of the civil rights movement in the south, people were empowered to do things they might not have been otherwise empowered to do. we've got to be very, very careful about that. >> the book is "bending toward justice, the birmingham church bombing that changed the course of civil rights." it is out today. if you've never been to birmingham and stood there next to the 16th street baptist church, it's something you ought to do at least...
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. >> the great civil rights issue of our time is public education and whether we honor the commitment to quote congressman ryan from this weekend equality. and guarantee equality of outcome. we've entered a social contract for 160 years or so in this country that every child has a right at a public education, to rise in the world according to their ability and if we don't honor that, we're breaking that compact. the question is, what are we spending the money on? clearly, there is a disconnect between the amount of money and the way it is spent. >> talking about hiring more teachers. you could go and -- >> we're spending so much money, but we're not spending it wisely. >> in warren county in the kentucky example, because they took on old building, 1930s building, and basically built a new building, they saved over $7 million in energy costs and when budgets came down, they were able to not cut teachers because they spent just a lot less money own heating and maintaining the schools, so the question is, where are you going to spend the money and can you spend it now and for the long-te
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daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. >> health care manufacturer johnson & johnson will pay to sell civil allegations. >> i expect this from you, johnson, but not you, johnson. to be honest, i have not trusted johnson & johnson since i tried to stop my child's crying with the no more tears shampoo in his eyes. did not work. >> the 113th hasn't passed the bills every congress does like a highway bill or defense bill or farm bill or a budget. what do we need a budget for? clearly not for highways, defense, or food. congress did pass a bill ensuring that people can fish near dams on the cumberland river and also passed deep cuts in food stamps if are the poor which is good solid governing because the poor don't need food stamps anymore now that they can fish near dams on the coupler withland river. >> time to talk about what we learned. we learned a lot. i learned you can catch a munch kin in your mouth if it is delivered right. >> it's not good. really bad in my case. we have a champion. is donut hole capture in chief. >> he's good at it. >> it should surprise no one. not just because he lo
daily use and a 30-tablet free trial. >> health care manufacturer johnson & johnson will pay to sell civil allegations. >> i expect this from you, johnson, but not you, johnson. to be honest, i have not trusted johnson & johnson since i tried to stop my child's crying with the no more tears shampoo in his eyes. did not work. >> the 113th hasn't passed the bills every congress does like a highway bill or defense bill or farm bill or a budget. what do we need a budget...
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well civil society is the bases of conservatism that i write about in the book. >>> we'll be right back with "morning joe" plus live coverage of the september 11th memorials right here on msnbc. there was a time i wouldn't step out of the house without my makeup. now, it's no problem. (announcer) neutrogena tone correcting night serum with high performance soy to even skin tone and active retinol to speed cell turn over. clinically shown to visibly fade brown spots in 14 nights. i even out my skin at night so it looks younger, flawless in the morning. (announcer) neutrogena tone correcting now you can fade and prevent discolorations all day. new tone correcting spf 30. you must be looking for motorcycle insurance. you're good. thanks. so is our bike insurance. all the coverage you need at a great price. hold on, cowboy. cool. i'm not done -- for less than a dollar a month, you also get 24/7 roadside assistance. ght on. yeah, vroom-vroom! sounds like you ran a 500. more like a 900 v-twin. excuse me. well, you're excused. the right insurance for your ride. w, that's progressive. call or c
well civil society is the bases of conservatism that i write about in the book. >>> we'll be right back with "morning joe" plus live coverage of the september 11th memorials right here on msnbc. there was a time i wouldn't step out of the house without my makeup. now, it's no problem. (announcer) neutrogena tone correcting night serum with high performance soy to even skin tone and active retinol to speed cell turn over. clinically shown to visibly fade brown spots in 14...
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if you can see the see-saw right now. netanyahu is weaker than re-elected barack obama. they need each other. but israel needs the u.s. to have its back, both because of syria, the civil war next door, the possibility of chemical weapons which would be, as the president said, a real game-changer, though, i'm told that they have no evidence that chemical weapons were used by the regime. the president is very clear that it would not have been used by the opposition. that was fallacious argument from the regime but no hard evidence they were used. if it were used, it would be a game-changer. but israel needs the u.s. for iran and they do seem to be coming closer together on the time line of iran and it's very clear, from what the president said, that he would support military action and he is not bluffing. >> richard haass, i can only say this thinking like a politician thinks and it doesn't matter what level you are. you're always a politician. i would be getting on the phone with barack obama and saying, listen, you want me to push back on iran and you want to tell me the
if you can see the see-saw right now. netanyahu is weaker than re-elected barack obama. they need each other. but israel needs the u.s. to have its back, both because of syria, the civil war next door, the possibility of chemical weapons which would be, as the president said, a real game-changer, though, i'm told that they have no evidence that chemical weapons were used by the regime. the president is very clear that it would not have been used by the opposition. that was fallacious argument...
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the world can't turn a blind eye to this right now. they can compromise on this. they have to show the rest of the world that if you enter into an agreement where you're giving up your nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction we are not going to forget about that five or ten years ago from now. that is what we need to focus on and focus how we get germany, how we get france and how we get england and how we get china and other civilized nations to actually make sure that the agreement we entered into as a civilized world sticks in 2014. >> joe scarborough, host of "morning joe," thanks. i appreciate your perspective, joe. >> i appreciate your perspective and your beard. >> that's good to know. >> wasn't it february? when are you going to shave that thing? >> spring is just around the corner. thanks. >> matt is support on that, joe. thank you. >> bill, that is the end of the day, forget all of the tweets and all of the skirmishes. as a country that is interested in stability across the globe, we have got to make sure that what we guaranteed ukraine sticks. >>
the world can't turn a blind eye to this right now. they can compromise on this. they have to show the rest of the world that if you enter into an agreement where you're giving up your nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction we are not going to forget about that five or ten years ago from now. that is what we need to focus on and focus how we get germany, how we get france and how we get england and how we get china and other civilized nations to actually make sure that the agreement we...
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. >> then senator obama back in 2007 comparing moses to american civil rights leaders. according to the next guest, moses' influence on american culture does not end there. here now best-selling author. his new book "america's profit" is really interesting. is there an argument to be made that moses was the founding father of the u.s.? >> well, you had columbus comparing himself to moses, and the pilgrims said not since moses was there a more important journey. on july 4th, 1776, and thomas jefferson and franklin and john adams. six weeks later they made the recommendation, moses leading the israelites across the sea. >> is tlnt a freeze of moses and the ten commandments in the supreme court. it has been debated before, was that an endorsement of religion to have moses there, and i think the argument people make is he is not a religious figure, he is a secular figure as the law giver. >> well, there was a film that took the stone commandments around the country and the publicity stunt became the basis of landmark law. the supreme court has six views of moses. there are
. >> then senator obama back in 2007 comparing moses to american civil rights leaders. according to the next guest, moses' influence on american culture does not end there. here now best-selling author. his new book "america's profit" is really interesting. is there an argument to be made that moses was the founding father of the u.s.? >> well, you had columbus comparing himself to moses, and the pilgrims said not since moses was there a more important journey. on july...
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. >> i remember the civil rights marches that i was in in the deep south. i remember the antivietnam war stuff that i participated in as a college student. i have memories. what occupy wall street says to me is they get it. they get that somewhere between wall street and k street the system is corrupt. here's why. a big check gets first in line. everybody else is out of sight. this country is not fair at the top. >> that's the bottom line. i couldn't agree with you more. what is the response -- you were down there a few times? >> i have. i was the first guy to go down there. >> first guy to go down there. >> yeah. >> what was the response and what did you find? >> oh, they beat me up badly. i'm a republican and a conservative by nature. but we had a good day. i listened. i didn't give a great speech. i didn't come to talk. i came to listen. and i liked what i heard. their solutions are different than mine. >> sure. >> they think we need more government. i think we need better government. big difference. >> and you're walking the walk on your message about g
. >> i remember the civil rights marches that i was in in the deep south. i remember the antivietnam war stuff that i participated in as a college student. i have memories. what occupy wall street says to me is they get it. they get that somewhere between wall street and k street the system is corrupt. here's why. a big check gets first in line. everybody else is out of sight. this country is not fair at the top. >> that's the bottom line. i couldn't agree with you more. what is the...
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joining us, civil rights activist joe madison. less than a year after his d.c. speech, dr. king gave a sermon in east berlin where he specifically addressed the berlin wall, which divided the city from 1961 to 1989 saying, quote, here on either side of the wall are god's children and no man-made barrier can obliterate that fact. the naacp called pence's comments an insult. i would go further and say this administration is taking the legacy and using it to further their political needs. >> and let me add another iconic speech that dr. king gave, an amazing sermon, when he said the most dangerous things on the planet, sincere ignorance and/or conscientious stupidity. unfortunately i think in pence's case both of dock bind. the sad thing is and reverend sharp is absolutely right, dr. king was about freedom. walls are not about freedom. dr. keing was about freedom. making pop eople go to work witt pay is not freedom. we consider it slavery. african-americans make up 18% of the federal workforce. we're disproportionately on this holiday impacted by what the trump administration
joining us, civil rights activist joe madison. less than a year after his d.c. speech, dr. king gave a sermon in east berlin where he specifically addressed the berlin wall, which divided the city from 1961 to 1989 saying, quote, here on either side of the wall are god's children and no man-made barrier can obliterate that fact. the naacp called pence's comments an insult. i would go further and say this administration is taking the legacy and using it to further their political needs. >>...
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she's such a nonconformist she is speaking, as rachel said, this is 1963/'64 before the civil rights movement breaks open, the psychedelic movement, the anti-war movement is coming, it's this reckoning that happens with sidney brustein, iris and these friends living in the center of bohemia. it's this call to action that's what speaks to me at the beginning of the play, sidney is disillusioned. he's done it he put himself out there he's a liberal he did everything he's supposed to do and nothing happened it's all the same. he wants to withdraw that's something that i think a lot of people that i speak to nowadays have that same feeling. you put yourself out there socially, politically, you can be an activist, what do you do when the results are not what you want them to be? you want to withdraw, how do you stay engaged >> you both have had very successful film careers. you have had a very successful film career you're out there on the stage now, all by yourself in terms of your intensity that you bring to your roles, is there a different level of intensity that you bring when you kno
she's such a nonconformist she is speaking, as rachel said, this is 1963/'64 before the civil rights movement breaks open, the psychedelic movement, the anti-war movement is coming, it's this reckoning that happens with sidney brustein, iris and these friends living in the center of bohemia. it's this call to action that's what speaks to me at the beginning of the play, sidney is disillusioned. he's done it he put himself out there he's a liberal he did everything he's supposed to do and...
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what started as a labor issue became a civil rights cause. king was asked to help. he came to memphis, joining a poorly organized march that turned tragically violent. some demonstrators looted and broke windows. a black teenager was killed by police. it was king's worst nightmare, undermining his reputation for non-violence, jeopardizing his plans for the walk march just weeks later. >> we must not allow the events of the day to cause us to let up. >> that would be a tragic error. >> reporter: king decided to stage another march in memphis days later despite a core injunction. he had something to prove. >> i feel we can still have a non-violent demonstration and that we will have a non-violent demonstration here in memphis. >> reporter: at a rally for striking workers, king was defiant. >> so just as we say, we will not let any dog or water hoses turn us around, we will not let an injunction turn us around. >> reporter: and he had something else to say in that speech that night. >> because i have been to the mountaintop. >> reporter: it sounded like a premonition.
what started as a labor issue became a civil rights cause. king was asked to help. he came to memphis, joining a poorly organized march that turned tragically violent. some demonstrators looted and broke windows. a black teenager was killed by police. it was king's worst nightmare, undermining his reputation for non-violence, jeopardizing his plans for the walk march just weeks later. >> we must not allow the events of the day to cause us to let up. >> that would be a tragic error....
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now the basic civil rights laws, title six, housing laws, community reinvestment act, eeoc contract appliance. the lawlessness has caught up with us. so now we intend to go to the major banks and demand that they either lend the money or lose the money. but i think president barack must use restructuring, not just jobering at them. because the restructure loans because they're making money off of foreclosures. they're making money off of the origination. they're making money off of the securitization, making money off the private mortgage insurance. they're making money off of the bailout. they're making money off of fees. these appear to be gifts to wall street. >> you've called for a second stimulus, excuse me, and do you really think the american people with stomach that, let alone afford it. >> we're either going to have a second stimulus or more of a hemorrhage. if we keep losing jobs and homes and churches and students, we must stop the hemorrhages. and so far -- that's what i'm going to talk about the roosevelt bottom-up plan. targeting jobs for the wpa. the bottom-up approach seems to
now the basic civil rights laws, title six, housing laws, community reinvestment act, eeoc contract appliance. the lawlessness has caught up with us. so now we intend to go to the major banks and demand that they either lend the money or lose the money. but i think president barack must use restructuring, not just jobering at them. because the restructure loans because they're making money off of foreclosures. they're making money off of the origination. they're making money off of the...
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when i used to come out here in my early days of civil rights. you had gang leaders. >> yeah. >> the older gang leaders were in jail. there's no one, when we came out three or four months ago, there's no leadership to talk about. these are just kids two or three in a posse. can't cut a deal with anybody and say look we've got to bring this down. >> and the combination of that fact which is really important, i will agree, with the parlance of gun, and high-magazine clips, all of that stuff, with a lot of young kids, no social structure even within the gangs, it's a very deadly combination. very toxic. >> reverend, thank you for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. >>> up canning up next, willie's standing by inside the cubs locker room. by the way, did you see heilemann? heilemann, you look like you're holding a giant blue marshmallow here. >> it's cold out here! it's getting colder. >> stay there. you look like my grandfather. >> it's getting colder as the sun comes up. i don't understand it. >> i think we're down in the teens now. we'll go t
when i used to come out here in my early days of civil rights. you had gang leaders. >> yeah. >> the older gang leaders were in jail. there's no one, when we came out three or four months ago, there's no leadership to talk about. these are just kids two or three in a posse. can't cut a deal with anybody and say look we've got to bring this down. >> and the combination of that fact which is really important, i will agree, with the parlance of gun, and high-magazine clips, all...